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I think there is a basic question about tags we should decide on:

Is the tag sufficient for all translation questions, or do we need some other system? If the latter, what do you propose?

However we set it up, I imagine we won't need tags like , which can be replaced by [some tag for translation] + [a tag for expressions or idioms].

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Proposal. Here's one idea, consistent with the tags made so far:

Comment. This is what I had in mind when I created the tag, but I can see a serious downside: we will be mixing questions from Portuguese to English with those from English to Portuguese. The German Language SE has and , but I'm not sure the best analogue for that in Portuguese.

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  • I am hoping someone has a better idea.
    – Frank
    Commented Jul 17, 2015 at 0:04
  • And what tag would you propose for questions where someone would like translated into current/contemporary/modern Portuguese some bits from the Cantigas de Santa Maria or Os Lusiadas? :) I mean, those aren't exactly not Portuguese almost by definition, but I can sure see their old language uses throwing people for a loop.
    – tchrist Mod
    Commented Jul 17, 2015 at 3:19
  • @tchrist Good question. Among the alternate names on the wikipedia page pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%ADngua_galego-portuguesa I guess I'd suggest tradução-português-antigo. By the way, I am interested to hear alternatives, but I'm not familiar enough with the language (or participating in nascent SE sites, for that matter) to have thought of anything better than this.
    – Frank
    Commented Jul 17, 2015 at 3:28
  • (Thinking about it more...) Or just português-antigo if it's not about translation
    – Frank
    Commented Jul 17, 2015 at 3:39
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    We've had some discussion in chat on whether we should allow questions about archaic Portuguese. But if we do, arcaico would be enough.
    – E_net4
    Commented Jul 17, 2015 at 13:14
  • I fear that tradução-espanhol may bring some tricky questions. But most importantly, I think translations from Portuguese to Spanish should not be allowed.
    – E_net4
    Commented Jul 20, 2015 at 21:09
  • @E_net4 But you would allow translations from Spanish to Portuguese (like the two above)? In that case, we could simply say, in the tag wiki excerpt for tradução-espanhol that it is only to be used for ES=>PT. Such a tag would be nice to have for those familiar with (or native in) Spanish learning Portuguese.
    – Frank
    Commented Jul 20, 2015 at 21:13
  • @Frank that could be acceptable, I guess.
    – E_net4
    Commented Jul 20, 2015 at 21:18
  • @E_net4 Okay. By the way, I'm not sure why translation PT=>ES should not be allowed. If you have some reasons for it, I'm curious what they are. Maybe you could make a meta post on the topic.
    – Frank
    Commented Jul 20, 2015 at 21:20
  • @Frank No need to. It simply happens that the site is not meant to gather specialists or learners of the Spanish language. If they want something translated to Spanish, there's Spanish.SE.
    – E_net4
    Commented Jul 20, 2015 at 21:22
  • @E_net4 I am not convinced. Maybe I'll make a meta question on it later. Your argument would naturally extend to English as well, and we'd lose things like portuguese.stackexchange.com/questions/213/… (Actually, that's the only example I could find, but it seems quite popular.)
    – Frank
    Commented Jul 20, 2015 at 21:29
  • @Frank Not at all, English would be the only exception because it's the most widespread, the "language of the Internet" and the de facto in Stack Exchange. Therefore, translation questions to English and Portuguese variants make sense, whereas to other languages it does not. Again, we are not gathering Spanish specialists, and we cannot support questions requesting translations to it.
    – E_net4
    Commented Jul 20, 2015 at 21:40
  • @E_net4 Okay, I've added another answer (with prepositions that make it obvious what the direction of translation is, so we don't need to expect people to read tag wiki excerpts... because they mostly won't) and another meta Q on whether PT=>X should be allowed. meta.portuguese.stackexchange.com/questions/131 You've pretty well convinced me that questions PT=>EN should also be disallowed, since we're not gathering English experts either. Anyway, we can dispute whatever's left in dispute over there.
    – Frank
    Commented Jul 21, 2015 at 0:07
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Here's another idea:

We could use , , , etc. which are less ambiguous than those suggested in my first answer (, etc.). Vanilla would again be for translation of uniquely Portuguese terms (like saudade) to "close" terms in any other language.

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